ras moutans saqarTvelos Tavisufali industriuli zonebis simravle? “dadgeba dro, rodesac lado gurgeniZes da kaxa benduqiZes pasuxs mosTxoven da albaT ara mxolod erovnuli bankis gamo!” gazeTi “yvela siaxle” – 17-23 seqtemberi, # 37, 2009 Cveni gazeTis profesori lado stumaria papava, ekonomikur mecnierebaTa romelsac qveyanaSi mimdinare doqtori, procesebis Sefaseba vTxoveT: _ batono lado, CvenSi ukve aRaravis ukvirs termini “Tavisufali industriuli zona”. ufro metic, xelisufleba gvpirdeba, rom axlo momavalSi saqarTveloSi 5 aseTi zona gveqneba: quTaisSi _ ori, xolo TbilisSi, foTsa da baTumSi _ erTi. rogor SeafasebT am movlenas? _ Tavisufali industriuli zonis Sesaxeb me araerTxel mimsjelia, maT Soris, Tqveni gazeTis furclebidanac. Tavisufali idustriuli zona, anu igive Tavisufali ekonomikuri zona, aris is teritoria, sadac ar vrceldeba saqarTvelos kanonmdebloba mTeli sisruliT. upirveles yovlisa, es aris gaTavisuflebulia gadasaxadebisagan. gaTavisuflebulia gadasaxadebisagan, teritoria, bunebrivia, is sadac biznesi rom cdilobs Tu biznesi koncentracia moaxdinos swored Tavisufal ekonomikur zonaSi. kargia es, Tu cudi? _ Cemi Sefaseba iseTivea, rogoric wlebis win iyo: amgvari zonebis arseboba qveyanas sakmaod did zarals moutans. getyviT ratom, _ imitom, rom saqarTvelo aris qveyana, sadac aris investiciuri SimSili, aq investiciebi Zalian mcire odenobiT Semodis. rodesac aseT pirobebSi Tavisufali industriuli zona iqmneba, investiciebi Tavs iyris swored am zonaSi, xolo sxva regionebSi investiciuri SimSili kidev ufro izrdeba. anu, CvenSi moxdeba aseTi ram: ganviTardeba yvela is regioni, sadac Tavisufali industriuli zona 1 Seiqmneba, magram ganviTardeba danarCeni saqarTvelos xarjze. xolo Tu mTel saqarvelos Tavisufal industriul zonad gamovacxadebT, maSin gadasaxadebs veRar amoviRebT da praqtikulad qarTuli saxelmwifo aRar iarsebebs. rogor SeiZleba foTis, quTaisisa Tu sxva qalaqis ganviTarebis momxre viyo danarCeni saqarTvelos xarjze? es aris didi Secdoma, romelsac Cven samwuxarod veRar vicilebT Tavidan am xelisuflebis xelSi, magram ra gaewyoba, es samwuxaro realobaa! _ batono lado, bolo xanebSi ucnauri ambebi xdeba “saxalxo bankis” irgvliv: am bankis aqciebi erTbaSad 190%-iT gaZvirda, mis aqcionerebs Soris yofili premieri _ lado gurgeniZec saxeldeba, myidvelebs Soris ki kaxa benduqiZesac asaxelebdnen…sainteresoa, ra xdeba? _ ver getyviT verafers, me is vici mxolod, rom “saxalxo banki” es aris erT-erTi yvelaze problemuri banki, romelic axorcielebs biujetidan Tanxebis ganawilebas xelfasebsa da pensiebze. es aris finansuri dawesebuleba, Tumca rogorc banki, Zalian problemuria. me isic ar vici vin aris dRes misi mesakuTre, vis ekuTvnis paketi, isic ar vici, ras upireben. amboben, rom am bankis sarfianad gayidva surT, magram rodis da rogor, amis Sesaxeb CemTvis cnobili araferia. unda vaRiaroT, rom dakavSirebiT: marTlac ivnisis bevri dasawyisSi ucnauri ram saqarTvelos moxda am finansTa bankTan ministrma ganacxada _ 50 milioni lari gvaqvs xazinaSi da ar viciT ra vuyoT, amitomac sasurvelia romelime kerZo bankSi CavdoT es fulio. Caatares tenderi da aseT bankad ratomRac “saxalxo banki” dasaxelda, romelmac biujetidan marTlac miiRo 50 milioni lari. Cemi azriT, mTavrobis valia rac SeiZleba meti gamWvirvaloba Seitanos msgavs procesebSi, riTac sxvadasxva moaruli Wori moixsneba. es aris finansuri instituti da misi saqmianoba ufro gamWvirvale unda iyos, rom sazogadoebaSi am bankis mimarT ndoba gaCndes. arc is aris cnobili, lado gurgeniZem SeiZina, Tu mas daevala bankis gayidva da yovelive amis lamazad “SefuTva”, mTavari mainc isaa, rom sabanko sfero Zalze saTuTi sferoa da ar SeiZleba Tundac erT romelme banks Seeqmnas zedmeti problemebi, radgan es aucileblad iqoniebs gavlenas mosaxleobis ndobaze danarCeni bankebis mimarTac. am etapze 2 ra da rogor aris Cafiqrebuli “saxalxo bankis” Taobaze, amis Tqma SeuZlebelia, radgan informacia ar aris sajaro. _ seriozuli cvlilebebi mimdinareobs “erovnul bankSic”, misi funqciebi izrdeba, kanonidan im muxlis amoRebasac apireben, romelic ucxo qveynis moqalaqes erovnuli bankis sabWos wevrobis uflebas aniWebs. amis gamo Tanamdeboba datova robert kristiansenma. rogor SeiZleba Sefasdes es procesebi? _ minda mkiTxvels Sevaxseno, rom 2008 wlis gazafxulze, rodesac gurgeniZem da benduqiZem erovnuli banki daangries, erT-erTi sakamaTo sakiTxi iyo, SeiZleboda Tu ara erovnuli bankis sabWoSi Sesuliyo ucxo qveynis moqalaqe. maSin jer kidev deputati viyavi, parlamentis tribuna gamoviyene da araerTxel mivmarTe saparlamento umravlesobas, rom es kanoni ar mieRoT. maSinac da dResac vfiqrob, rom ar SeiZleba ucxo qveynis moqalaqe iyos erovnuli bankis sabWos wevri. es aris sakmaod saidumlo saqmeebTan mxolod saqarTvelos SemTxvevaSi maRali aqvs SeiZleba donis Sexeba. moqalaqe, aRiZras organo, amitomac, romlis romelsac aucilebelia winaSec pasuxismgeblobis qveynis iq iyos saWiroebis sakiTxi. CemTvis gaugebari iyo roca iq Caweres ucxo qveynis moqalaqe. maxsovs, aseTi magaliTic moviyvane: imisaTvis, rom ucxoelma saqarTvelos kalaTburTis nakrebSi iTamaSos, qveynis prezidentma mas moqalaqeoba unda misces da Tu asea, Tu kalaTburTis saTamaSod moqalaqeobis miRebaa saWiro, ratom ar unda iyos saqarTvelos moqalaqe erovnuli bankis sabWos wevri, romelmac qveynisaTvis umniSvnelovanesi sakiTxebi unda gadawyvitos-meTqi. samwuxarod, Cemi winadadeba maSin parlamentSi ar gaiziares, mxolod ramdenime deputati dameTanxma. aucileblad unda vTqva, rom mivesalmebi giorgi qadagiZis mier gadadgmul principul nabijs, romelmac praqtikulad gamoricxa is simaxinje, rac gamowveulia ucxo qveynis moqalaqeebis monawileobiT erovnuli bankis saqmianobaSi. ufro metic, me minda mivuloco mas seriozuli gamarjveba! _ cnobilia, rom ucxoelebi mxolod konsultantis rangSi SeZleben erovnul bankSi saqmianobas, magram batonma kristiansenma amaze uari ganacxada. 3 _ rasakvirvelia, konsultantad yofna SeiZleba, es Cveulebrivi ambavia. xolo Tu vinme Takilobs erovnuli bankis konsultantobas, es misi saqmea. robert kristiansens vicnob, ganagrZobs Tu ara saqmianobas erovnul bankSi, es misi gadasawyvetia. ubralod, Tavidan ar unda daeSvaT msgavsi Secdoma, rodesac ucxoeli Seiyvanes bankis sabWos wevrad. es miuRebeli nabiji iyo qarTuli saxelmwifosaTvis. _ batono lado, bevri fiqrobs, rom bolo wlebSi erovnul bankSi uamravi Secdoma da danaSauli iqna Cadenili, rom usamarTlod moeqcnen bankis TanamSromlebs, ukanonod daiTxoves samsaxuridan… Tqvenc iziarebT am mosazrebas? _ rac Seexeba TanamSromlebis gaSvebas, amaze veranair komentars ver gavakeTeb Tundac imitom, rom Cemi meuRlec gauSves am bankidan. amitom, me gamovdivar rogorc dainteresebuli mxare da am Temaze saubrisagan Tavs Sevikaveb. raime rom vTqva, ityvian, yvelafers piradi wyenis gamo laparakobso... _ dasasrul, safinanso zedamxedvelobis saagentos uflebamosileba erovnul bankze gadadis. ramdenad mniSvnelovania es cvlileba? _ ra Tqma unda, erovnuli banki ibrunebs safinanso zedamxedvelobis funqcias da es umniSvnelovanesi cvlilebaa. es aris didi gamarjveba. erT dros gurgeniZem da benduqiZem Zalian didi ziani miayenes qveyanas erovnuli bankis dasusutebiT. vfiqrob, rom dadgeba dro, roca erTsac da meoresac amis gamo pasuxs mosTxoven da albaT ara mxolod amis gamo... xaTuna CigogiZe 4